200GW Hiding in Grid, Sodium Batteries 10x Cheaper, Wave-Powered Datacenters w/ Ramez Naam | EP #280

The mates sit down with Ramez Naam to discuss the state of energy, the grid’s struggle to keep pace with AI, breakthroughs in sodium batteries and fusion, and whether wave-powered data centers could unlock a new era of energy abundance. Get access to metatrends 10+ years before anyone else - https://qr.diamandis.com/metatrends Peter H. Diamandis, MD, is the Founder of XPRIZE, Singularity University, ZeroG, and A360 Salim Ismail is the founder of Open ExO, a GP at Exponential Venture Capital/The Organizational Singularity Fund and a sought after global speaker and thought leader. Dave Blundin is the founder & GP of Link Ventures Dr. Alexander Wissner-Gross is a computer scientist and founder of Reified Ramez Naam is a computer scientist, clean energy futurist, award-winning author, and founder and managing partner of Planetary VC. A former Microsoft executive, he now invests in climate and energy startups and is a leading voice on disruptive technologies shaping the future of energy. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the energy landscape and technological potential 02:20 Guest introduction: Remez and his work on energy futures 04:55 AI's power hunger and the need for grid expansion 08:51 Log-linear relationship between compute and AI progress 15:05 Moving data centers to where energy is abundant 17:55 The potential of large-scale solar projects and their costs 20:50 The role of nuclear fission and fusion in future energy 33:54 The analogy of cache and multitasking in energy management 39:53 The scale of current and future solar installations 44:58 The economics of GPUs, AI, and energy costs 50:07 Long-term prospects for solar, nuclear, and space-based energy – My companies: Apply to Dave's and my new fund: https://qr.diamandis.com/linkventureslanding Get the blueprint for generative media https://goo.gle/startupgenmedia Go to Blitzy to book a free demo and start building today: https://qr.diamandis.com/blitzy Your body is incredibly good at hiding disease. Schedule a call with Fountain Life to add healthy decades to your life, and to learn more about their Memberships: https://www.fountainlife.com/peter _ Connect with Peter: X: https://qr.diamandis.com/twitter Instagram: https://qr.diamandis.com/instagram Substack: https://substack.com/@peterdiamandis Website: https://www.diamandis.com/ Xprize: http://www.xprize.org A360: https://www.abundance360.com/ Connect with Dave Web: https://db2.ai X: https://x.com/DaveBlundin?s=20 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-blundin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dave.blundin TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@daveblundin Connect with Salim: Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/salimismail/ X: https://x.com/salimismail Join Salim’s 10x Shift: https://openexo.com/10x-shift?channel=moonshots Subscribe to Salim’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/@SalimIsmail Exponential Venture Capital: https://organizationalsingularity.fund Connect with Alex Web: https://www.alexwg.org LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexwg/ X: https://x.com/alexwg Email: [email protected] Substack: https://theinnermostloop.substack.com/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1thtZk5vHTXbtDHezPT7tl Threads: https://www.threads.com/@alexwissnergross Connect with Ramez Ramez's Investment Firm, PlanetaryVC: https://planetary.vc Ramez's website: https://rameznaam.com Ramez on X: https://x.com/ramez Listen to MOONSHOTS: Apple: https://qr.diamandis.com/applepodcast Spotify: https://qr.diamandis.com/spotifypodcast Follow MOONSHOTS: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/launchmoonshots/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@launchmoonshots X: https://x.com/launchmoonshots Threads: https://www.threads.com/@launchmoonshots – *Recorded on August 4th, 2026 *The views expressed by me and all guests are personal opinions and do not constitute Financial, Medical, or Legal advice.